2007-05-22 12:47:36 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-05-22 12:39:37)

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Marumaro for the WIN !!

2007-05-22 12:52:32 In reply to RAZurrection (2007-05-22 12:39:44)

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I will not troll JRPGs threads... maybe :P

2007-05-22 13:35:50

2007-05-22 14:27:29 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-05-22 12:39:37)

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2007-05-22 14:39:49 In reply to szaromir (2007-05-22 12:52:32)

2007-05-22 14:57:05 In reply to Slabs (2007-05-22 14:39:49)

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I will not troll JRPGs threads... maybe :P

2007-05-22 15:22:23 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-05-22 12:39:37)

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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

2007-05-22 15:30:43

Well Acert you are basing this on what may happen, not what will happen.

Wii is still very much a wait and see in Japan, Many big franchises are still headed to the PS3 and not to the Wii.

At the moment there aren't many games worth buying a PS3 for, but once, MGS4, DMC4 and FF13 come out, i think PS3's will start to sell better, plus if Sony decide to lower the price it will help also.

I still think the PS3 will have the lions share in this generation.

You say the PS3 has an inferior games library but you would say that as you are PC bias (many games on the 360 are from PC dev's or PC ported titles), there are still many games on the PS3 which will never come to the 360, because Sony own the IP's.

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Marumaro for the WIN !!

2007-05-22 15:49:54

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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

2007-05-22 16:22:21

This is how I see it for the most part.

PS3 - Japanese LOVES swords and magic power ups.
Xbox 360 - Westerns loves shooting and blow stuff up.

Europe is in between of both sides of liking what is coming out if it has enough interest.

I say that 360 needs more games like Ninja Gaiden, Heavenly Sword or God of War as an exclusive.
Ninja Gaiden WAS an exclusive until Tecmo bastards ported NG Sigma to PS3.

Too Human, well yeah its awesome and all, but seriously though it ain't button mashing Heavenly Sword/God of War kind of game, which I want much more of.

I am just thrilled that DMC4 is coming to 360 as well so we don't stand in the shade with this genre.

Ninja Gaiden 2 is also coming, but c'mon...let's be honest here...it's not gonna stay exclusive that much, I dont think so anyways.
It would be good for years, THEN a port, but not months.

I am not saying shooters suck, I love shooters, but not always it has to be shooting all the time.

It would be very cool if they mix shooting with magic, and swords, giants, monsters...etc. sci-fi/fantasy if you want to call it.

Too Human is gonna be great, I am sure of it, but it's not exactly button mashing responsive like NG, or God of war or DMC...who knows though , right.

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2007-05-22 17:40:53 In reply to Acert93 (2007-05-22 15:49:54)

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2007-05-22 17:47:26 In reply to Sath (2007-05-22 16:22:21)

2007-05-22 17:55:40

If anything the vast majority of Japanese next-gen games will need to be multiplatform if they are to maximise returns on sales from markets outsidde Japan.

2007-05-22 18:49:03 In reply to NeoNemesis (2007-05-22 05:42:06)

2007-05-22 19:37:53

Well Acert, it's a dead cert (no pun.. well maybe a little) that the current trend of putting games on the 360 is because it's got a larger install base. Not only that, but because the PS3 currently has a RUBBISH install base. It's selling well and all, but it just isn't in enough homes to warrant a full blown next gen project like DMC4.

The fact that DMC4 is coming to the 360 doesn't (in my opinion) reflect a new business strategy to focus the series on the 360 long term, nor does it imply a more open mentality to next gen projects on the whole. In my opinion and assessment (whatever it's worth) it's on the 360 because right now, it'll ensure sales to warrant its production costs in the first place. I don't think they neccessarily planned DMC4 for the 360 from the get go, but I think it became increasingly clear that the PS3 wouldn't reach critical mass in time.

I think there's a point to be made that multiplatform games aren't exactly the best ammo in this discussion either, as they represent a + - 0 factor. The importance lies within each platform's own unique support, and even looking at first and second party, the PS3 has a more diverse lineup in the pipeline. I'm not saying they're neccessarily all *PERFECT GAMES THAT'LL ALTER YOUR LIFE*, I'm just saying it does reflect in large part the kind of variety seen on the PS2 compared to the Xbox.

The 360 definitely has a broader appeal already than the Xbox did (with a few exceptions, and not nearly as broad as some would like - but that's rather down to preference, not quality) but if you look at its main support, you've got your Jade Empire/KOTOR in Mass Effect, you've got your Halo in Gears, you've got your Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive in.. um.. those respectively. You could even argue that the likes of Alan Wake are a continuation of PC game support seen with superior versions of Max Payne, aswell as the Doom 3's and the Half Life 2's of last generation.

I'm not gonna claim that strides haven't been made in the jRPG space, and cracking the whip around Rare's bottom will definitely put a few more colourful platformers on the system, but I definitely still feel that the portfolio for the most part mirrors that of the original Xbox with a few obvious exceptions.


Meanwhile, the teams that used to provide 2nd party - defining games - to Sony's PS2 platform still stand firmly by their side. Sure, you've got a huge point in that third parties like Capcom invest far more in the 360 this time around, but the games that have impressed the most on the PS3 so far are absolutely exclusive. The likes of Little Big Planet, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Ratchet & Clank and Motorstorm are franchises that'll no doubt continue going on there. Even a rather "usual" (though surprisingly unusual looking) Playstation game like Folklore is opening eyes over at PSY as we speak.

Now let me just emphasise how little this post is about quality. It may sound empty but I'm really, really excited about what's happening right now and in the future on the 360. I've been playing the Forza 2 demo like mad and I can't believe how evil it is that it's sodding.. three weeks off STILL.

It's about diversity, and whether the PS3 will continue delivering exclusive titles with the same kind of appeal as the PS2 did. In my personal, humble (well okay, comes across as not most of the time) opinion - it certainly looks like it.

The main significant difference is that this generation, the 360 will be loads more successful than the Xbox in capturing some of that appeal - be it through deals made with developers or third party titles coming out on the platform. That's absolutely brilliant in its own right.

EDIT: So many points here are a bit off. Lost Planet and Dead Rising are clearly 360 games and totally focused on the platform, so I didn't mean that Capcom hasn't changed it's mentality towards the 360. My point was specifically in regards to DMC4. Gah, prolly more stuff in here that sounds stupid, I was a bit distracted whilst writing it. I apologize beforehand if something sticks out as particular bullshit. :)

EDIT 2: +spelling

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2007-05-22 19:54:50

I would agree with that, i think the 360 is a bit like a stepping stone (for many dev's) until the PS3 gets more popular.

When i say stepping stone i don't mean they will abandon it all together, but like Simon says its a way to get more revenue.

Whether these games remain this way is yet to be seen, and greatly depends on how well the PS3 sells in the future.

I guess time will tell, As for Dragon Quest i expect 10 to be on the PS3, the main reason SE chose the DS was for sales puposes, not because the DS is superior to the PS3.

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2007-05-22 19:58:16

I'd say multiplatform games are more important than exclusives. If 95% of the library is the same across platforms, that and a $200 difference is going to influence far more decisions of what to buy than the 5% that's different.

2007-05-22 20:01:22

Bullcrap!! $$ talk and the 360 will lead this gen and the next unless Sony give us a gaming console -minus the blueray = $300 or less..

Otherwise devs will continue to go with the market leader (360) or continue to go multi-plat on everything.

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2007-05-22 20:06:05

Well thats bullcrap also, the PS3 isn't doing so bad considering it cost's twice as much.

Last I heard it had reached 3-4 million, 360 had only hit the 4-5 million mark at around the same period in time, had been avalible in all 3 markets, plus was a damn site cheaper.

So all in all i think it's doing faily well, a price drop is needed for sure though.

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2007-05-22 20:28:25 In reply to Jollipop (2007-05-22 20:06:05)

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Halle Berry: Delgado i am feeling really reall dirty tonight, shall i call Jessica Simpson for a threesome?

Delgado: HALLE what have i told you about bothering me when i'm playing Mass Effect!!! now get out and dont come back for 2 months!! (Slams door

2007-05-22 21:21:19

If Microsoft chose Too Human over Heavenly Sword then I'd say Microsoft made the best decision.

Heavenly Sword looks impressive no denying that and its quite flashy as well, but I'm not totally convinced as to how the whole thing will play out story wise. I'm completely convinced Too Human will not letdown in that regard. The level of ambition in Too Human is just impressive.

I'm very interested in heavenly sword, but if I had a choice between investing in Mass Effect + Bioware, Too Human + SK or Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey + Mistwalker. I would in a heartbeat take any of those 3 scenarios over Heavenly Sword as it is now.

All 5.5 million ps3s sony shipped aren't all in stores according to sony's latest earnings release. Of all the ps3s they shipped to the USA more than half are still on shelves and with the ps3 selling the way it is now they'd still have plenty of supply all the way to the end of this year even without shipping anymore. I believe only 3.6 million ps3s are actually in stores according to Sony. Things aren't going so good.

Give me a break people... look at all the crappy fps titles listed? Who in their right mind is even going to pay all of those any attention? What are those developers going to make if they can't make the games they want to make? People look at some fps titles and instantly think oh the console is an fps box. Funny I'm only looking forward to a single fps in the entire 360 lineup :) Halo 3. I'd say the 360 is more an all around console than an fps box because majority of the fps titles will suck so bad they don't matter.... and there will be plenty of good stuff to play that are in other genres. Ooops and Call of Duty 4 and I think thats it.

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2007-05-22 21:33:34

What no Bioshock for you?

2007-05-22 21:42:30 In reply to dcdelgado (2007-05-22 20:28:25)

erm, your comparing the install base of a reletively new console to one that has been out for ~7 years...great logic there.

2007-05-22 21:45:38

http://nexgenwars.com/

A bit over 3 million sold according to that.

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2007-05-22 22:44:36 In reply to endaround (2007-05-22 21:33:34)

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